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		<title>Hiking, Hams and Hills &#8211; Station #6 of the AT Golden Packet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia hikers and hams supported the White Rock Cliffs (Station #6) of the first <a href="http://www.aprs.org/at-golden-packet.html">Annual Golden Packet Event</a>.</p>
<p>Summarized, we were trying to set up APRS relay stations up and down the east coast to cover and service all points along the Appalachian Trail and surrounding areas.  Some RF link analysis was performed and is available for viewing at <a href="http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/">http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/</a> using the remarkable Radio Mobile program and <strong>A LOT</strong> of SRTM elevation data.</p>
<p>Of the fourteen stations planned several points were accessible only by foot. The White Rock Cliffs station was no exception.<br />
<span id="more-938"></span><br />
So an all-call was put out for fit hams to assist in the planning and execution of placing a temporary APRS digipeater system on the cliff face of White Rock Cliffs to yield the <a href="http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/details/summary.php?link=Link_F">northbound</a> and <a href="http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/details/summary.php?link=Link_E">southbound</a> RF links.  Some interest was expressed, but, in the end, kx4o and kj4faj were the only two hams to volunteer.</p>
<p>Preparations for Station 6 are outlined at <a href="http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/stations/station_06.html">http://www.packetradio.net/events/AT_Golden_Packet_Event/stations/station_06.html</a>.  Highlights include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Enlist the aid of non-ham hikers to build up the team to safe levels</li>
<li>Get a trail map of the area</li>
<li>Obtain a Kenwood TM-700 or 710 APRS VHF/UHF radio</li>
<li>Build a cool antenna that has some gain and can be hand carried</li>
<li>Get some modern backpacks with water delivery systems</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>More Hikers</strong></p>
<p>Several folks at work seemed to be in good shape and expressed interest in outdoor activities.  I asked two who are new to the area if they would like to hike and learn about trails west of the Northern Virginia area where we live.  Two accepted the challenge: Rob Searle and Jay Gundlach.</p>
<p><strong>Trail Map</strong></p>
<p>White Rock Cliffs is at the end of a short pipe-stem trail off the &#8220;Big Blue&#8221; trail on the border between West Virginia and Virginia.  I am just as unfamiliar with this trail system as my new hiker recruits.  I did not hesitate to purchase the <a href="http://www.patc.us/store/PA220.htm">trail Map F authored by the PATC</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Obtain an APRS Radio</strong></p>
<p>Thankfully, the Golden Packet organizer loaned me a radio for this event.  I like it so much that I am now in the market for a TM-710A.</p>
<p><strong>Portable Antenna with Gain</strong></p>
<p>The Golden Packet event is unique in that each station has to focus their efforts on just two directions: link to the next station north and a link to the next station south.  Some are using two beam antennas with a power splitter/combiner.  Since we had to hike our equipment to the White Rock Cliff&#8217;s site, I wanted to concentrate on a simpler omnidirectional antenna with engineering to realize higher gain in all directions.  Several approaches were considered:</p>
<ul>
<li>Simple quarter wave GP or half-wave J-Pole &#8211; <a href="/vhf/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html">Discussed here</a></li>
<li>5/8ths wave J-Pole &#8211; <a href="/antennas/58-wave-j-pole-vs-12-wave-j-pole-eznec-shootout.html">Compared here</a></li>
<li>Collinear J-Pole &#8211; <a href="/nec-shootouts/collinear-58-wave-j-pole-vs-collinear-12-wave-j-pole-eznec-shootout.html">Compared here</a></li>
<li>Collinear 5/8ths wave J-Pole &#8211; <a href="/nec-shootouts/collinear-58-wave-j-pole-vs-collinear-12-wave-j-pole-eznec-shootout.html">more copper than it is worth</a></li>
<li>5/4 Wave Vertical &#8211; <a href="/antennas/half-wave-vs-five-forth-wave-vhf-eznec-shootout.html">Debunked here</a></li>
<li>Rubber Ducky Antenna &#8211; Not really considered, but is certainly an option</li>
</ul>
<p> In the end the collinear half-wave J-Pole was the one that simulated best.<div id="attachment_939" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 178px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/eznec_2m_collinear_jpole.png" alt="EZNEC Currents in 2M 1/2wave J-Pole" title="eznec_2m_collinear_jpole" width="168" height="353" class="size-full wp-image-939" /><p class="wp-caption-text">EZNEC Currents in 2M 1/2wave J-Pole</p></div>  The Collinear Antenna has been around for a very long time and is a good simple antenna to construct.  As noted in the EZNEC shootouts referenced in the list above, many attempts to improve straight forward antenna designs, like the half-wave antennas, result in mixed results.  These &#8220;buzzword antennas&#8221; often function, but often with more materials &#8211; like the Collinear 5/8 Wave J-Pole; Who wants less performance with more copper?</p>
<p>I am thankful for programs like EZNEC that allow one to get a rough order look at new antenna topologies and quit guessing.  There seems to be a popular notion antennas that provide a good match to the coax for low SWR perform quite well as a radiator.  If you have not already noticed, dispelling this myth is a chief goal of Ham Help Desk.</p>
<p>Anyway, as you look at the Half-Wave Collinear J-Pole antenna in the right figure you can see how the lengths were adjusted until the peak currents were centered in each of the two vertical sections.   It is a bit hard to see, but sections #1 and #5 form the two half-wave radiation conductors.  By the way, all of these conductors are simulated with 1/2 copper pipe &#8211; the material used for this antenna.  The bottom sections, #6,7, and 8, form the J of the J-Pole and are essentially a half-wave total length.  Sections #2, 3 and 4, form the all important 180° delay section to ensure the top half of the antenna radiates in phase with the bottom (rather than out of phase like the debunked 5/4 Wave antenna).</p>
<p>A future post will go into more detail about this antenna.  For now, know that we procrastinated and did nothing for this antenna until the very weekend of the Golden Packet event (a Sunday).  All parts were purchased on Saturday morning, pipe cutting and soldering performed on Saturday night, test assembly and tuning done on Sunday morning (real early) and hauled untested to the mountain top Sunday midday.  Folks, this is not the way to live your life, but EZNEC predictions seemed to work just fine.</p>
<div id="attachment_943" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/antenna_bottom_radiator.jpg" alt="Collinear J-Pole" title="antenna_bottom_radiator" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-943" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Collinear J-Pole</p></div>&#8230;and here it is on the edge of White Rock Cliffs.  The 180° phase delay section was, at the last minute, changed from soldered copper pipe to a strange combination of copper pipe hanging straps, brass hardware and a short vertical piece of copper pipe.  For the Golden Packet, I assembled this part with a total length prescribed by EZNEC and left it at that.  Eventually, the adjustable nature of these copper straps will allow me to tweak the tuning at leisure.</p>
<p>All the antenna pieces breakdown into backpack size items with the exception of the two radiator elements.  These two pieces are carried by hand with ease by the hikers.  If desired, the radiator sections can be split with a coupler soldered to one of the pipes to allow all pipes to fit inside a backpack.  I decided against this for now as I was not sure how flimsy this contraption would be on a windy mountain top.</p>
<p>Did we really need a complicated antenna with a view like this?</p>
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<div id="attachment_947" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/antenna_bottom_portion.jpg" alt="Antenna&#039;s view south" title="antenna_bottom_portion" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-947" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Antenna's view south</p></div></div>
<p><div id="attachment_949" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kj4fah_texting_to_gdhill_or_mdmtns-300x225.jpg" alt="KJ4FAJ 'Texting' to GDHill (#8)" title="kj4fah_texting_to_gdhill_or_mdmtns" width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-949" /><p class="wp-caption-text">KJ4FAJ 'Texting' to GDHill (#8)</p></div>This is an excellent question.  As soon as I tuned up the Kenwood TM-700A on 144.390 APRS, packets came screaming in from all over.  I could here tens of packets per second.  Eventually I configured the radio to the preset PM5 memory which uses 144.340 as the Golden Packet test frequency.  To put it bluntly, there were no issues getting maximum signal to/from the north Maryland Mountains and south Apple Orchard locations.  Note there was no APRS participant heard at Apple Orchard, but I could hit the voice repeater located there with no problems.  Would a rubber ducky antenna work too?  Perhaps as this mountain top location was like shooting fish in a barrel.  At least my Collinear Half-Wave J-Pole didn&#8217;t not work.  Unfortunately I could not locate my HT to test the rubber ducky idea&#8230; next year perhaps.</p>
<p>Here are kx4o and kj4faj learning how to use the Kenwood TM-700A radio&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_951" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kx4o_and_kj4faj_white_rock_cliffs_aprs.jpg" alt="KX4O &#038; KJ4FAJ" title="kx4o_and_kj4faj_white_rock_cliffs_aprs" width="450" height="338" class="size-full wp-image-951" /><p class="wp-caption-text">KX4O &#038; KJ4FAJ</p></div></div>
<p>Rob Searle, the most athletic of our foursome, poses with the antenna&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_952" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rob_collinear_jpole.jpg" alt="Rob with Collinear J-Pole" title="rob_collinear_jpole" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-952" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Rob with Collinear J-Pole</p></div></div>
<p><strong>Kudos</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Thank you&#8221; cannot be said often enough for the help provided by Rob and Jay during this Golden Packet hiking &#8220;mission.&#8221;  They both are clearly active people.  They and my son are in far better shape than me as they often would climb the hill at a faster pace that I could possibly hold.  It worked out well though.  Jay provided help with navigation using the essential Map from PATC, Rob hauled my pack part of the way up the hill giving me a needed break and both located rock overhang cover in case we needed to hide from the nearby thunderstorms.</p>
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<div id="attachment_954" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/robandjay_white_rock_cliffs.jpg" alt="Jay Gundlach (bottom) and Rob Searle - Essential Crew atop White Rock Cliffs" title="robandjay_white_rock_cliffs" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-954" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jay Gundlach (bottom) and Rob Searle - Essential Crew atop White Rock Cliffs</p></div></div>
<p>Thanks also to the <a href="http://www.skywarn.com/">SkyWarn Network</a> working out of the <a href="http://www.147300.com/">147.300 repeater</a> who, as soon as they knew we were near local thunderstorms, provided updates to alert us of impending danger.  We had lightning nearby, but it never came&#8230; too close?!?!?!  We were ready to dive into the rock shelter located by Jay and Rob at a moment&#8217;s notice.</p>
<p><strong>More Pictures</strong></p>
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<div id="attachment_956" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/viewnorth.jpg" alt="The view towards Maryland - can you see the upper half of the antenna?" title="viewnorth" width="450" height="338" class="size-full wp-image-956" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The view towards Maryland - can you see the upper half of the antenna?</p></div>
<div id="attachment_957" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/whiterockcliffsaprscrew2009.jpg" alt="The White Rock Cliffs Golden Packet Crew 2009" title="whiterockcliffsaprscrew2009" width="450" height="338" class="size-full wp-image-957" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The White Rock Cliffs Golden Packet Crew 2009</p></div>
<p><div id="attachment_958" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/descent_rest.jpg" alt="Jay, Rob and KJ4FAJ resting during descent - they were actually waiting for me to catch up." title="descent_rest" width="450" height="338" class="size-full wp-image-958" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jay, Rob and KJ4FAJ resting during descent - they were actually waiting for me to catch up.</p></div></div>
<p><strong>Final Thoughts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The PATC Trail Map was essential to get us on the right path in the beginning of our ascent &#8211; well worth the $6 plus shipping.</li>
<li>Having &#8220;real&#8221; hikers as part of the group was essential to bring proper experience to the crew.</li>
<li>I busted my butt in the Gym the last two months preparing for this, but still have a long way to go when I compare myself to the in shape hiking peers.</li>
<li>I made several 146.520 MHz simplex contacts plus hit my Warrenton home-town repeater with ease.</li>
<li>I contacted Bob Bruninga, the organizer of the Golden Packet Test, on two different repeaters and I got confused at first because I was, at first, barely hearing one of the repeaters.  I quickly realized I was hearing another repeater on the same frequency much farther away.</li>
<li>My son and I purchased new backpacks for this event.  The new packs offer a place to store a good supply of water fed to the hiker via a convenient tube.  Nice.</li>
<li>One 7 amp-hour gel cell powered the whole event just fine.  I was skeptical at first, but am now a believer.  We brought two 7 AH cells just in case, but did not need the second one.</li>
<li>I am reasonably happy with the Hiker Collinear J-Pole, especially after the short build time, but hope to refine it a bit.  That&#8217;s for another post on HHD.</li>
</ul>
<p>This was a fun event and I hope to repeat it again next year.</p>
<p>John<br />
de kx4o<br />
Future non-fat ham. </p>
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		<title>5/8 Wave J-Pole vs. 1/2 Wave J-Pole EZNEC Shootout</title>
		<link>http://www.hamradio.me/antennas/58-wave-j-pole-vs-12-wave-j-pole-eznec-shootout.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Antennas]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NEC Shootouts]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[5/8 Wave J-Poles aren't better than 1/2 Wave J-Poles]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Type &#8220;J-Pole&#8221; into any search engine and you will see dozens of not hundreds plans to build your very own J-Pole antenna.  Many are variations on the tried and true 1/2 wave design with the 1/4 wave stub at the bottom.  Be it a plumber&#8217;s delight with copper pipe or ladder line heaven using a trimmed up 450 ohm feed line, many folks have successfully created their own J-Pole antenna with a surprising variety of materials.</p>
<p>However, there appears to be some kind of mystical attraction to the 5/8 wave radiator.  Several of the J-Pole designs attempt to make the radiator 5/8 wave in length and adjust the phasing stub to make for a good match.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s compare the two approaches using the models available from the late Larry Cebik&#8217;s NEC collection.  Here are the contenders each using 3/8 inch diameter copper pipe&#8230;<br />
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<div id="attachment_905" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 284px"><a href="http://None"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/contenders.png" alt="1/2 Wave (left) vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole" title="contenders" width="274" height="484" class="size-full wp-image-905" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">1/2 Wave (left) vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole</p></div></div>
<p>The current magnitudes resulting from the simulation are shown to reveal just how current flows in the conductors and, just as important, their polarity.</p>
<p>J-Pole fanciers already understand the 1/4 wave stub in the bottom part of the antenna, the J, have roughly identical and opposite currents which tend to cancel any radiation effects.  This is very similar to ladder line when and if the currents are equal and opposite.  Of course, where the 1/4 wave stub meets the bottom of the 1/2 wave radiating element current is not zero or no power would travel up to the radiator.  This results in a slight imbalance in two currents.</p>
<p>The plot below shows the azimuth plot of the signals from both antennas.  The 1/2 wave plot is at about 2.8 degrees above the horizon while the 5/8 wave peaks around 2.6 degrees.  Each antenna is simulated with their base 360 inches over real ground.</p>
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<div id="attachment_906" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 433px"><a href="http://None"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/azimuth.png" alt="1/2 vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole Azimuth Plot" title="azimuth" width="423" height="526" class="size-full wp-image-906" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">1/2 vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole Azimuth Plot</p></div></div>
<p>Both antennas exhibit asymmetry due to their 1/4 wave phasing stub small imbalance.  The 1/2 wave J-Pole beats the 5/8 wave J-Pole by about 2 dB.</p>
<p>Here is the elevation plot of both antennas along the worst case azimuth bearing&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_907" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 433px"><a href="http://None"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/elevation.png" alt="1/2 vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole Elevation Plot" title="elevation" width="423" height="326" class="size-full wp-image-907" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">1/2 vs. 5/8 Wave J-Pole Elevation Plot</p></div></div>
<p>The asymmetry of a J-Pole antenna really comes to light here with a clear bias towards one side of the antenna.  Note the 5/8 wave J-Pole has more energy at higher elevations at a cost of energy on the horizon where we want it.</p>
<p>So what are we to think about the extra copper and less balanced approach offered by the 5/8ths Wave J-Pole antenna?</p>
<p>My conclusion is you are better off sticking with tradition and build the 1/2 Wave J-Pole antenna.</p>
<p>A reasonable question is why isn&#8217;t 5/8 wave better.  5/8 wave is about the limit a vertical radiator can be to peak up gain towards the horizon.  However, it assumes you have a very robust ground system to work against.  A J-Pole has no such ground plane.</p>
<p>Another problem comes from the fact the 5/8 wave j-pole has that unbalanced current in the J part of the antenna.  Thus the length of the antenna, electrically, is really something other than 5/8 of a wavelength.  Such is not the case with a 5/8 whip over a good ground system.</p>
<p>5/8 Wave antennas have their place, but the term is used far too loosly in amateur radio circles.  The J-Pole is one good example where deviating from tradition yields a functional antenna, but one with less performance than the simpler of the two antennas.</p>
<p>If you are considering building a simple J-Pole great!  Build a 1/2 Wave J-Pole and don&#8217;t forget the balun.</p>
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		<title>Collinear 5/8 wave J-Pole vs. Collinear 1/2 wave J-Pole EZNEC Shootout</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another 5/8 J-Pole Design... can it justify the complexity?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While planning for a ham radio hike into the mountains to support the Appalachian Trail Golden Packet exercise, I asked my club members for ideas about a good portable 2 meter antenna.</p>
<p>One response included a link to this web page showcasing a collinear J-Pole antenna using two 5/8ths wave antenna elements.<br />
<span id="more-889"></span></p>
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<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/5-8thx2j.htm">http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/5-8thx2j.htm</a>
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<p>As soon as I saw the site I thought, &#8220;Oh no&#8230; not another 5/8th wave antenna discovery.&#8221; However, to my surprise (and very much unlike the regular 5/8ths J-pole which does not work well at all) the two 5/8ths sections yielded a reasonably symmetrical pattern in both free-space and over real ground at a similar height.   Feeding issues aside, at least this design passes the threshold of physics.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s compare the relative merits of the 5/8ths collinear J-Pole by first introducing the contenders&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_893" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 396px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jpoles.png" alt="Three J-Poles for this Simulation" title="jpoles" width="386" height="638" class="size-full wp-image-893" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Three J-Poles for this Simulation</p></div></div>
<p>I added a regular J-Pole to compare each collinear design against.</p>
<p>The free-space simulation, below, of the buck0 design does show a high takeoff angle compared with a regular J-Pole and a double 1/2 wave collinear J-Pole often called the Super J-Pole.</p>
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<div id="attachment_890" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 432px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jpole_58col-12col_fs.png" alt="Regular and Collinear 1/2 and 5/8 wave antenna patterns." title="Freespace comparison of J-Poles" width="422" height="437" class="size-full wp-image-890" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Regular and Collinear 1/2 and 5/8 wave antenna patterns.</p></div></div>
<p>Freespace EZNEC simulations are often practical, but what we care most about is real-world, just above the Earth, simulations.  Below are the same three antennas with their bases about 360 inches above real ground in EZNEC&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_891" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 448px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jpole_58col-12col.png" alt="Three different J-Poles over real Earth" title="J-Pole Simulations over real earth." width="438" height="335" class="size-full wp-image-891" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Three different J-Poles over real Earth</p></div></div>
<p>This is more like it.  Note the collinear 5/8 wave J-Pole does, indeed, perform about as well as a regular J-Pole in these circumstances at this particular azimuth.  The half-wave collinear J-Pole beats out both antennas by about 2 dB.  Here is a closeup of the lobes on the right&#8230;</p>
<div id="attachment_892" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 317px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jpole_58col-12col_closeup.png" alt="Close up of EZNEC J-Pole Lobes" title="jpole_58col-12col_closeup" width="307" height="270" class="size-full wp-image-892" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Close up of EZNEC J-Pole Lobes</p></div>
<p>The buck0 5/8ths wave collinear J-Pole does perform.  However, if I take the same #14 wire, use the same cool construction techniques, but make a traditional 1/2 wave collinear J-Pole with the feed-stub, a half-wave section, a quarter wave stub topped off with a final half-wave section, the antenna is a good 2 dB stronger than the double 5/8 j-pole from buck0 in over-Earth simulations at about 3 degree elevations in all directions.</p>
<p>Plus if you build a regular J-Pole with #14 wire you will do about as well as the more complex buck0 design.</p>
<p>Less wire&#8230; simpler feed&#8230; more gain&#8230; who knew.</p>
<p>At least the Collinear 5/8 Wave J-Pole works, but it seems clear with the admittedly simple EZNEC simulations above, your wire investment is better spent on the simple traditional 2m meter J-Pole or the Collinear 1/2 Wave (Super) J-Pole. </p>
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		<title>Ham Question: Kenwood TM-G707 Display Erratic</title>
		<link>http://www.hamradio.me/mobile/ham-question-kenwood-tm-g707-display-erratic.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A user has a question concerning the reboot behavior of the control head of his Kenwood TM-G707 2m/440 transceiver.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>I wonder if any of you had your display unit for your Kenwood TM-G707 2/440 transceiver go blank and reboot even while the radio operates just fine.</p>
<p>If I move the wire with respect to the control head in a certain position this happens.</p>
<p>Is this just a case of dirty contacts between the little cable adapter and the control head or have any of you seen the wire in the cable actually break?<br />
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I guess this question applies to any remote display head models from any manufacturer.  I had heard Kenwood units are especially prone to this behavior.</p>
<p>Thanks for your observations.</p>
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		<title>2 Meter, 5/4 Wave Antenna Revealed</title>
		<link>http://www.hamradio.me/antennas/2-meter-5-4-wave-antenna-revealed.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Resolving the mystique surrounding the 5/4 wave antenna comparing center and end fed approaches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="/antennas/half-wave-vs-five-forth-wave-vhf-eznec-shootout.html">previous post</a> we debunked the 2 meter 5/4 wave antenna as actually an end-fed full-wave antenna resulting in a poor radiation pattern hardly optimal for terrestrial use.  The fix was to turn it into a collinear with the addition of a 180 degree phased stub between the two half-wave sections.</p>
<p>Thus, the 2 meter 5/4 wave antenna is bunk&#8230; or is it?<br />
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That term 5/4 wavelength keeps popping up in antenna discussions which seems to suggest it has some mystical power to achieve gain.  Could this be true?  Let&#8217;s look at some possible thoughts on this particular length:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Extended double Zepp antenna is about 5/4 wavelengths long</li>
<li>Two 5/8 wave antennas put butt to butt are about 5/4 wavelengths long</li>
<li>Collinear element spacing can result in a total length of around 5/4 wavelength</li>
<li>Hmmm&#8230;</li>
</ul>
<p>One common theme among these successful longer-than-a-wavelength systems is they are all fed in the center, not at the end.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s compare center feeding vs. end feeding a 5/4 piece of wire.</p>
<p>First let me preface this simulation with some points&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>This model is very very simplistic</li>
<li>It does not model the transmission line &#8211; it should for the complete picture</li>
<li>It does not include a matching system at all &#8211; a real antenna would</li>
<li>This is just a simulation of putting a power source at the middle or the end of a 5/4 piece of wire above real ground about 20 feet or so and that&#8217;s all</li>
<li>You should consider getting your own copy of EZNEC or equiv. when you are ready to model your complete antenna system &#8211; transmission lines and all</li>
</ul>
<p>So this very simple simulation takes a vertical piece of wire and puts a source at the bottom end or in the middle to compare what happens to the signal plot above real ground.</p>
<p>This view reveals the amazing difference in current distribution for each&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_546" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 217px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/54antennas.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/54antennas.png" alt="End Fed vs Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna" title="54antennas" width="207" height="347" class="size-full wp-image-546" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">End Fed vs Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna</p></div></div>
<p><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/viewantenna.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/viewantenna-150x150.png" alt="" title="viewantenna" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-550" /></a>If you are doing this in your own copy of EZNEC remember to select Current Phase from the View Antenna Attributes so you can study the current phase, not just the magnitude.</p>
<p>Note how the End Fed 5/4 wave antenna has two large opposing phases of current.  The Center Fed 5/4 wave also has two large current nodes, but they are the same phase&#8230; just like a good Collinear Antenna.</p>
<p>If you do not understand why the current phase changes when a long wire is energized with RF put the ARRL Antenna book on your Christmas wish list.  It is superb at explaining this.</p>
<p>If you pick up a copy of the ARRL Antenna book and read about collinear antennas, you will find a chart suggesting optimum gain vs. separation of the half-wave elements.  You will see the center fed 5/4 wave antenna produces the two primary half-wave in-phase elements at a desirable spacing.  The ARRL Antenna book is a must read for any antenna experimenters and designers.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s plot the Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna first&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_548" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 391px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/centerfed.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/centerfed.png" alt="RF of Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna" title="centerfed" width="381" height="377" class="size-full wp-image-548" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">RF of Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>8dBi or so and at a nice desirable low angle perfect for VHF communications.</p>
<p>8dBi???  How can a non-beam antenna have such high gain.  Well, remember we are simulating this antenna over real ground and real ground will reflect your signal leading to a maximum towards the horizon.  If you simulated this design with &#8220;Free Space&#8221; selected you would get the more typical 3dB or so gain figures.  Because real world situations are important, I usually default my simulations over real ground to ensure I don&#8217;t miss something basic.  Free Space or over real ground, the point of this article is to highlight the difference in performance between the end-fed and center-fed 5/4 wavelength antenna.  For those still wondering, yes a beam will produce still more gain than 8dBi.</p>
<p>Now for the End Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_549" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 390px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/endfed.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/endfed.png" alt="End Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna" title="endfed" width="380" height="418" class="size-full wp-image-549" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">End Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>Hurl.</p>
<p>The 5/4 wave antenna up about 20 feet at the base and fed at the end produces an almost 7dBi gain, but 45 degrees above the horizon &#8211; hardly useful.  This high angle gain comes at the expense of the low angle RF which is still more than 1 dBi.  It is possible all the hype over 5/4 wave antennas is reinforced by the fact they will still work with weak gain tricking the user into thinking it is a superior antenna just because it has 5/4 wave in its title.</p>
<p>Why is the same antenna so different depending on where we feed it?</p>
<p>The answer lies in how we manage the two primary half-wave current nodes in the antenna.</p>
<p>If we feed the antenna in the center with, say, a balanced transmission line, one line pushes current while the other pulls current which results in the current direction being the same in the two dominate half-wave current nodes at the top and bottom of the antenna.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if we manage to feed the end-fed antenna at the bottom with the same balanced feed (one line connected to the antenna, the other to some sort of counterpoise) the current phase switches every half wavelength resulting in opposite current nodes.</p>
<p>The only way to fix this issue is to feed the antenna in the center or introduce a half-wave 180 degree delay element between the two half-wave current nodes as is done in &#8220;double J-Poles&#8221; and other Collinear antenna designs.</p>
<p>Comparing both antenna patterns&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_547" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 391px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/both.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/both.png" alt="End Fed vs. Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna" title="both" width="381" height="255" class="size-full wp-image-547" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">End Fed vs. Center Fed 5/4 Wave Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>The vertical end-fed 5/4 wavelength antenna may actually work somewhat for VHF use, but is hardly an efficient use of antenna resources.</p>
<p>If you are going to put all the effort into a large cumbersome antenna design you are well advised to:</p>
<ul>
<li>Read the ARRL Antenna Book</li>
<li>Model your antenna in EZNEC &#8211; a limited free version is available</li>
<li>Not believe any web site that promotes amazing performance with any single antenna element longer than 5/8 wavelength</li>
<li>Model your transmission line, too, when doing your final simulations &#8211; you will be surprised how it affects your signal</li>
<li>Great SWR is great, but has little to do with antenna patterns</li>
</ul>
<p>Antenna experimentation and design is a fascinating part of our Amateur Radio hobby and well worth the time and expense.  However, you will find far more enjoyment in this endeavor if you read up on antenna theory at least a little first and then try your designs in the free version of EZNEC second.  This will help you avoid the woodchuck mistakes leading to far more enjoyment of your hobby.</p>
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		<title>Can a 2m J-Pole be used at 440?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Analysis to suggest you really can use a 2 meter J-Pole in the 70cm band.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many makers of J-poles for 2 meters claim they can also be used at 70 cm.</p>
<p>It may not be intuitive at first, but the answer, at least from an antenna pattern standpoint, seems to offer some hope.<br />
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It is difficult to calculate the feed-point impedance of a J-Pole perfectly since it is a tapped system.  However, the calculations I ran for 430 MHz suggest it is somewhat close to a good match.</p>
<p>Here is the same J-Pole from Cebik&#8217;s collection with 146 and 430 MHz&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_537" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 215px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440.png" alt="2 meter j-pole at 146 and 430 MHz." title="2m440" width="205" height="387" class="size-full wp-image-537" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">2 meter j-pole at 146 and 430 MHz.</p></div></div>
<p>The currents on the long vertical section act a bit like a long wire pointing straight up as shown in this comparison plot&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_538" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 436px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440plot.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440plot.png" alt="2m J-Pole Plot at 146 and 430 MHz" title="2m440plot" width="426" height="263" class="size-full wp-image-538" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">2m J-Pole Plot at 146 and 430 MHz</p></div></div>
<p>The pattern for 430 MHz, shown in green, is wild and certainly suggests this is not the ideal antenna for the job.  However, if you look closely at the low elevation detail&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_536" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 431px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440plotclose.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2m440plotclose.png" alt="Close up of 2m J-Pole at 146 and 430 MHz." title="2m440plotclose" width="421" height="169" class="size-full wp-image-536" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Close up of 2m J-Pole at 146 and 430 MHz.</p></div></div>
<p>&#8230;you will see a reasonable lobe of power at a low angle.</p>
<p>This simulation was done with the antenna at 300 AGL by the way.</p>
<p>So can you use a 2 meter J-Pole at 430 MHz and expect reasonable results.  EZNEC suggests a cautious yes.  However, be real sure about your SWR before you try this.  It might not be what you expect.</p>
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		<title>1/2 Wave vs. 5/4 Wave VHF EZNEC Shootout</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Longer is not always better in the world of antennas.  Such is the case of the 5/4 wave vertical antenna... a Super J-Pole Wannabe Antenna]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine is preparing for the upcoming Virginia QSO Party in March 2009.  Part of the preparations include a focus on some good VHF antennas to support the heavy use of VHF mobile operations in this party.  Vertical polarization is key to success.  He spoke of a 5/4 Wave Antenna.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, one web site promoting a 5/4 wave antenna solution failed to realize you can&#8217;t make an antenna longer without eventually hitting a limit.<br />
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During commute time repeater discussions my friend was contemplating the use of a 5/4 wavelength vertical for his VHF antenna.  He mentioned a web site with the construction details for just such an antenna which results in a nice simple no fuss vertical antenna housed in a PVC enclosure.  Great, I thought, but I had some concerns over this whole 5/4 wavelength thing.  I told my friend I would work up a simulation to see how good this antenna is.  The first step was to find the web site containing the construction details for a 5/4 wave VHF antenna.  This was easy resulting in this web site&#8230;</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.rason.org/Projects/ant54/ant54.htm">http://www.rason.org/Projects/ant54/ant54.htm</a></div>
<p>The author provides superb details on how to construct the 5/4 wavelength VHF antenna.  He wisely predicted the installation into PVC would change the speed of light of conductors within.  He revealed the need for a matching network.  Good so far.  In fact, I bet this antenna design provides a good match to 50 ohm coaxial cable, is of sound construction and will last many years in the elements.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s only part of the story isn&#8217;t it.  How will the antenna actually perform.</p>
<p>EZNEC to the rescue&#8230;</p>
<p>While it is time consuming to simulate all the wire size and dielectric constant details the candidate 5/4 wave antenna offers, we can make the following assumptions and model accordingly&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Since there is a parallel line component about 1/4 wavelength long, this is really an end fed full wavelength antenna with the extra 1/4 wave portion acting like an impedance transformer just like a J-Pole</li>
<li>The existing models of J-Pole antennas from Cebik&#8217;s excellent NEC antenna simulation collection provide just what we need to start analyzing the full-wave antenna</li>
<li>The 5/4 wave &#8220;tall&#8221; antenna will be compared directly to the 3/4 wave &#8220;tall&#8221; J-Pole</li>
</ul>
<p>Both antennas are modeled with 18 AWG wire, used by the web site author for most of the vertical element, with the horizontal portion 300 inches over EZNEC&#8217;s &#8220;Real/High Accuracy&#8221; ground.  Here they are with their RF currents shown&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_524" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 233px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/half_vs_full_wave.png" alt="Half vs. Full Wave Antennas" title="half_vs_full_wave" width="223" height="474" class="size-full wp-image-524" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Half vs. Full Wave Antennas</p></div></div>
<p>Those in the know will already spot trouble with the full wave radiating element.  Those RF currents do not result in more RF radiation in the horizontal plane, but rather help to cancel it.  For those of you experimenting with EZNEC be sure &#8220;Current Phase&#8221; is selected in the View Antenna options so you will see the vector, not just the magnitude, of the currents on the antenna view.  You also need to ensure all your wires go in the same direction with end 2 connecting to end 1 of the next wire or the current phase might show incorrect vectors; The RF simulation plots work perfectly with wire direction either way, however.</p>
<p>Here is the full wave plot in red compared with a simple half wave J-pole in blue&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_525" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 374px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/halfwave_fullwave_plots.png" alt="Elevation Plots of Half vs. Full Wave Vertical Antennas" title="halfwave_fullwave_plots" width="364" height="675" class="size-full wp-image-525" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Elevation Plots of Half vs. Full Wave Vertical Antennas</p></div></div>
<p>Recall both antennas are simulated with the base 300 inches above ground with the following discoveries:</p>
<ul>
<li>The full-wave vertical is at least 7dB worse than the regular J-Pole at 4 degrees elevation &#8211; important for base to mobile and most any VHF communications</li>
<li>The full-wave vertical shows negative 1.67 dBi gain at the terrain hugging low angles</li>
<li>The full-wave does provide move energy at high angles which might be of benefit for base to air communications</li>
</ul>
<p>I ran SWR calculations for both antennas and they both offer an excellent match to 50 ohm cable throughout the 2 meter band.  For completeness here they are&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_523" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 360px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/end_fed_half_wave_swr.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/end_fed_half_wave_swr.png" alt="End Fed Half Wave (J-Pole) SWR" title="end_fed_half_wave_swr" width="350" height="380" class="size-full wp-image-523" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">End Fed Half Wave (J-Pole) SWR</p></div></div>
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<div id="attachment_522" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 360px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/end_fed_full_wave_swr.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/end_fed_full_wave_swr.png" alt="End Fed Full-Wave SWR (with J-Pole Feed)" title="end_fed_full_wave_swr" width="350" height="380" class="size-full wp-image-522" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">End Fed Full-Wave SWR (with J-Pole Feed)</p></div></div>
<p>What are we to draw from this?</p>
<p>First, great SWR does not a good antenna make.</p>
<p>Second, the full wave antenna does not, by itself, provide any benefit for terrestrial radio use and is, in fact, detrimental.</p>
<p>One can ask, though, how is it taller antenna designs provide better radiation towards the horizon.</p>
<p>The answer is based on the idea of making the RF current peaks in the antenna be in the same phase so the energy, towards the horizon, adds rather than subtracts.  Many methods exist to achieve this, but one popular technique is to add a half-wave delay between the two half-wave antenna portions.  By doing this we cause the current in the top antenna to be a full 360 degree delayed from the current in the bottom and, thus in phase.  This technique results in a type of antenna generally called &#8220;Collinear.&#8221;  The figure below illustrates how this is achieved in the popular Double J-Pole antenna&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_532" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 188px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fullwave_jpole_hairpin.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fullwave_jpole_hairpin.png" alt="Full-Wave J-Pole with Hairpin 1/2 Wave Delay" title="fullwave_jpole_hairpin" width="178" height="343" class="size-full wp-image-532" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Full-Wave J-Pole with Hairpin to make Collinear</p></div></div>
<p>Plenty of web sites exist to show how to build a Double J-Pole antenna so we won&#8217;t go into that here.</p>
<p>The UHF antenna on your vehicle may well have two or three antenna sections arranged as a collinear antenna with half-wave delay coils between each section to keep each radiating in phase.  If we look at the evolution of the vertical antenna&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_530" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/evolutionverticalantenna.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/evolutionverticalantenna.png" alt="Evolution of Vertical Antenna" title="evolutionverticalantenna" width="400" height="421" class="size-full wp-image-530" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Evolution of Vertical Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>&#8230;we see 5/8 wave antennas tend to be the upper limit of length before phasing techniques need to be applied if we are to keep a good signal towards the horizon.  Collinear antennas are a tried and true approach for antennas longer than 5/8 wave.  Whether a hairpin or helical resonator is used to phase the 1/2 wave antenna &#8220;pieces,&#8221; improved performance awaits the antenna builder.  As we any good thing there are diminishing returns by adding more co-phased antenna pieces.</p>
<div align="center"><strong>Conclusions</strong></div>
<p>The 5/4 wave antenna discussed is really a full-wave antenna with a 1/4 wave feed.  The lack of an additional half-wave delay element between the two high current portions of the antenna suggest the author has missed an important detail in antenna design which will render the antenna far less useful than anticipated.</p>
<p>It is likely the author confuses his desire for a single wire antenna with dipoles of similar length &#8211; the extended double Zepp type is an example.  The difference between an end fed piece of wire and a center fed dipole is, again, the current phases.  A center fed dipole pushes current in one wire while pulling on the other thereby ensuring each dipole leg has current in phase &#8211; assuming the dipole legs diverge from the feed-point of course.  This cannot happen in an end fed single wire one wavelength or 5/4 wavelength long without some means to delay the half-wave portions by 180 degrees.</p>
<p>However, the author&#8217;s noble attempt at antenna design and excellent construction techniques remind us there are other ways to apply his ideas to realize the suspected intent; A desire for a good sturdy Collinear antenna.</p>
<p>A final note worth considering is this&#8230; Can EZNEC or any antenna simulation program provide good enough results to use for antenna comparisons?  Of course, but there are limits.  If you are trying to see if one antenna is a dB or so better or worse than another you do need to be careful with the assumptions you put into your simulation.  However, comparing a half-wave antenna against a full-wave antenna, both end fed with a 1/4 wave section, is well outside almost any margin of error so you can expect the full-wave antenna antenna to be far worse than the half-wave for horizon coverage based on the simulations above.</p>
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		<title>Ham Saves Self with HT While Hunting</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ham radio helps bring assistance to injured hunter using cross band repeat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early one November morning an amateur radio operator was patiently waiting for morning to break in his tree stand in Rappahannock County, Virginia to get in another chance at a deer.  Then tragedy.  The tree stand broke sending him down to the ground and, we are not sure how, onto a board with nails leaving him near motionless with six nails in his back.<br />
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About 6am a call for help came in on the Warrenton, VA repeater&#8230; quite likely out of range from Rappahannock County using an HT.  However, the victim managed to hail help from listeners on the repeater including folks named Randy, Frank and Tom.  Authorities were called by the Warrenton operators who then talked with the hunter to encourage him while he drifted in and out of lucidity. Before sunrise, help arrived to the hunter who drew the attention of the rescuers to his location by swinging a flashlight beam through the trees.</p>
<p>A quick visit to a hospital addressed his wounds and he is already out and recuperating at home.</p>
<p>Great news&#8230;</p>
<p>There just one question though&#8230; How did the hunter use a small low power HT to access a repeater several counties away?</p>
<p>It turns out the hunter has a 2M/440 FM transceiver in his truck which can be set as a cross band repeater.  This is exactly how he had it set up this particular morning while he carried a 440 FM HT with him.  The mobile radio was tuned to the Warrenton 2 meter repeater.</p>
<p>So, the hunter relayed his signal from his HT to his truck and, in turn, to the repeater and finally to the hams listening during their morning commute.</p>
<p>Sure a cell phone would provide the same results, but there is a real chance they don&#8217;t work in the back roads of Rappahannock County and this was the case for Steve.  Plus the cell phone would not allow the vocal support from a variety of concerned friends listening in on a party line.</p>
<p>So Steve relied on his amateur radio equipment to keep him &#8220;connected&#8221; to the world.  Good thing he did.  Here is the pathway Steve&#8217;s call for help took to bring the first responders to his side&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_423" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/save.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/save-300x197.png" alt="Entire communications path for ham requesting ambulance." title="Communications Path of Ham Getting Help via Radio" width="300" height="197" class="size-medium wp-image-423" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Entire communications path for ham requesting ambulance.</p></div></div>
<p>Steve&#8217;s equipment includes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Yaesu VX6R hand held transceiver</li>
<li>Kenwood TM-708A mobile transceiver in cross repeat mode</li>
</ul>
<p>This is an excellent example of how a hunter prepared for the worst using the best capabilities our amateur radio gear can provide.  Thankfully, the morning commuters knew just what to do and helped keep up the spirits of the hunter.</p>
<p>This is real EmComm&#8230;<br />
&#8230;and it didn&#8217;t even require a uniform.</p>
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		<title>1/4 Wave Monopole vs. 1/2 Wave J-Pole EZNEC Shootout</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Myths abound concerning how J-Poles do so well.  Here is an EZNEC shootout between a 2 meter J-Pole and a Monopole with radials.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J-pole antennas are an interesting solution to the goal of more gain with a simple antenna.  I won&#8217;t go into the specifics of what a J-pole is as there are plenty of sites on the Internet with good plans to help you build your own.</p>
<p>However, there seems to be much hype about j-poles that make some folks think they have some kind of magical antenna properties.  Indeed many folks report staggering improvements over their previous antennas.  Is all the hype warranted?<br />
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Well, simulation is not a perfect endeavor, but can certainly help analyze simple antennas at a good enough accuracy to make comparisons possible and reasonable.  Enter the contenders&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_384" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 280px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mono_vs_jpole.png" alt="2 Meter Monopole vs J-Pole Antenna" title="mono_vs_jpole" width="270" height="343" class="size-full wp-image-384" /><p class="wp-caption-text">2 Meter Monopole vs J-Pole Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>In the left side of the ring we have the classic 1/4 wave monopole antenna with four drooping radials.  On the right we have at a full 3/4 total wave in height the j-pole antenna.</p>
<p>These two antenna models are based on Cebik&#8217;s antenna collection available from his web site.  If you would like to simulate these and hundreds more antenna models, seriously consider purchasing his collection.</p>
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<div id="attachment_380" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare30feet" rel="attachment wp-att-380"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare30feet.png" alt="Monopole compared to j-pole with feed point at 30 feet height." title="compare30feet" width="418" height="239" class="size-full wp-image-380" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole compared to j-pole with feed point at 30 feet height.</p></div></div>
<p>The plot above shows the monopole as the primary trace in red compared with a j-pole in blue.  Both have their feed points up 30 feet.  The j-pole and the monopole have, for all practical purposes, identical gain in the primary low-angle lobe just above the horizon.  Hmm, where is the benefit?</p>
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<div id="attachment_379" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare15feet" rel="attachment wp-att-379"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare15feet.png" alt="Monopole and Jpole with feedpoing 15 feet above ground." title="compare15feet" width="418" height="241" class="size-full wp-image-379" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole and J-pole with feed point 15 feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>The overall gain of both antennas is lower and the j-pole shows a slight edge of about .5 dB.  This is still hardly worth much.</p>
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<div id="attachment_378" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare06feet" rel="attachment wp-att-378"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare06feet.png" alt="Monopole and J-Pole at six feet above ground." title="compare06feet" width="418" height="251" class="size-full wp-image-378" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole and J-Pole at six feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>Now we are beginning to see more difference between the monopole and the j-pole although both exhibit less gain than either at higher installations.  Also, the primary lobe angle is higher above the horizon.</p>
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<div id="attachment_381" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jp_6_15_30_feet.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jp_6_15_30_feet.png" alt="J-Pole EZNEC Simulations at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground." title="jp_6_15_30_feet" width="418" height="254" class="size-full wp-image-381" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">J-Pole EZNEC Simulations at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>This plot above compares the J-pole at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground to demonstrate the key benefit of getting your antenna, any antenna, as high as possible.  You might be wondering why so much gain occurs beyond what theory tells you.  One difference between theory and reality is theoretical antennas are frequently simulated in free space without the interaction from the ground.  The ground causes absorption, reflections and other reactions that sometimes help and sometimes hurt our desired signal characteristics.</p>
<p>This simulation suggests the J-Pole offers some benefits to the operator, but not the fabulous and amazing results some claim to exist.  The question is, then, why do so many folks get good results.  Well, let&#8217;s examine some possibilities&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Many new hams try a J-Pole (sometimes a ladder line variety) to see if it will be better than the rubber ducky antenna on their HT.  By simple virtue of the J-Pole being almost certainly in a much better antenna location, there is no doubt the operator sees a vastly superior signal over the HT antenna.</li>
<li>J-Poles are taller.  This may seem silly, but getting that half-wave portion of the antenna well above the feed point of a comparison monopole results in a significant height improvement.  This difference is more pronounced at low heights and may be why the simulation shows the J-Pole beating the monopole more so at six feet.</li>
</ul>
<p>The diagram below show how each antenna placed at the common feed point height.  The height advantage of the J-Pole is clear.</p>
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<div id="attachment_385" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 247px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/mono_vs_jpole_benefit" rel="attachment wp-att-385"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mono_vs_jpole_benefit.png" alt="J-Pole and Monopole EZNEC Currents" title="mono_vs_jpole_benefit" width="237" height="385" class="size-full wp-image-385" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">J-Pole and Monopole EZNEC Currents</p></div></div>
<p>The mystic of J-Pole antennas may cause some disappointment if folks are expecting more gain than a J-Pole can deliver.  Don&#8217;t listen to the fabulous claims.  If you desire to try a J-Pole just go ahead and do it.  I did and I like mine just fine.  Here are some advantages to a J-Pole&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Some, but not staggering, gain improvements at lower elevations</li>
<li>Slender design with little width</li>
<li>Simple sturdy construction makes for a hardy antenna</li>
<li>Entire antenna is at same dc potential allowing a grounded mount to dissipate static charge &#8211; however, the mast will become part of the antenna if you don&#8217;t choke the RF currents</li>
<li>A truly balanced-feed half-wave antenna that requires no ground for use &#8211; compare this with transformer based half-wave antennas that MUST be coupled to a good ground for the coax-side transformer currents to flow (lots of people make the wrong assumption half-wave mobile antennas do not need ground)</li>
</ul>
<p>J-Poles, whether copper cactus plumbing specials or ladder line types stuffed into PVC, work just fine, but don&#8217;t offer magical capabilities.  Try one.</p>
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		<title>Copper J-Pole Antenna on Play Set</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can a 2 meter J-Pole antenna work well on a child's playset?  Read and find out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I built a copper plumbing pipe j-pole antenna for 2 meters from plans on the internet, I really did not know quite where to put it.  I built it at my previous QTH as more of an exercise to teach my son how to solder with a torch.<br />
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After testing, years passed.</p>
<p>We moved to a new QTH with lots of room for antennas.  However, where to put the J-Pole antenna remained an issue.   As a temporary measure I shoved it in a eight foot piece of schedule 40 pipe and lashed it to a fence post.  I ran LMR-400 coax and found it works pretty well&#8230; at least good enough to finally be net control operator on the local repeaters from the comfort of my shack.</p>
<p>During the Virginia QSO party this year I realized 2 meter mobile operations were very important to support.  Vertical polarization was in order and this J-pole was just the thing.  I shove the schedule 40 solution into a tree atop a fully extended tree trimming pole.  The antenna was pretty sad looking and was still much shorter than our house.  It was the best I could do though.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, this antenna worked like a champ and I was able to easily work everyone in our county and any neighbor county with no problem on FM 2 meter.</p>
<p>Time passed.</p>
<p>We purchased a cheap Wal-Mart playset for our youngest.  After assembly I pondered the obvious&#8230; could it host an antenna.  The answer is yes and here it is&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_353" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/antennas/copper-j-pole-antenna-on-play-set.html/attachment/jpoleonplayset" rel="attachment wp-att-353"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jpoleonplayset.jpg" alt="Copper 2 Meter J-Pole on Play Set" title="jpoleonplayset" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-353" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Copper 2 Meter J-Pole on Play Set</p></div></div>
<p>Here is another view showing some details of how the copper j-pole is lashed to the structure of play set using an old dog leash I found in the yard&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_350" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/antennas/copper-j-pole-antenna-on-play-set.html/attachment/skyviewjpoletoyset" rel="attachment wp-att-350"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/skyviewjpoletoyset.jpg" alt="View of 2m J-Pole with Balun" title="skyviewjpoletoyset" width="300" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-350" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">View of 2m J-Pole with Balun</p></div></div>
<p>The balun is essential; Its application on this antenna verifies theory and simulation quite well.  You will notice the J-Pole has copper pipe extending down to serve as a mount for the rest of the antenna.  Ideally only the short vertical (1/4 wave long), the short horizontal portion and the long vertical (1/4 + 1/2 = 3/4 wave long) carry any RF current.  The feed point for the RF is a balanced feed quite near the horizontal short at the bottom of the J.  You should think of the feed point of a J-Pole antenna as feeding a horizontal dipole 1/2 wave long which is, of course, a balanced feed point.  So we have two issues to address concerning feeding of the J-Pole&#8230;</p>
<ol>
<li>Converting the Un-balanced nature of coaxial cable to balanced</li>
<li>Ensuring that extra copper pipe beneath the J and the outside of the coaxial cable shield do not conduct RF</li>
</ol>
<p>I originally tuned the impedance of this antenna by moving the copper straps up and down together until my MFJ antenna analyzer measured about 50 ohms.  With this done I just started using the antenna as is. In the shack, the antenna analyzer revealed a natural frequency quite a bit lower than the 2 meter band&#8230; something like 140 MHz or so.</p>
<p>If theory was right, the outside of my coax was becoming part of the antenna&#8217;s length and, thus, lengthening it.  Worse, RF was potentially making its way back into the ham shack.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_354" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/antennas/copper-j-pole-antenna-on-play-set.html/attachment/jpolebalun" rel="attachment wp-att-354"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jpolebalun.jpg" alt="Necessary J-Pole Balun" title="jpolebalun" width="200" height="189" class="size-full wp-image-354" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Necessary J-Pole Balun</p></div>As a quick and dirty test, I coiled up a few loops of the feeder RG58 coax into a coil to create an inductance to un-balanced currents in the coax.</p>
<p>Wow what a difference.  <strong>This one little change brought the inside the shack natural frequency of this antenna system from 140 MHz to about 145 MHz</strong>&#8230; spot on.</p>
<p>The SWR measurements for 146 MHz show under 1.5:1; This is very good for the 146.580 MHz FM simplex calling frequency for the Virginia QSO Party.</p>
<p>The SWR measurements for 147 MHz are under 2:1.  This is plenty good enough to work my local repeaters.</p>
<p>There are certainly more elegant ways to provide the balun function to this antenna.</p>
<p>Possibilities include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hollow cylindrical ferrite beads along the coax</li>
<li>Coax wrapped around a large toroid</li>
<li>An honest to goodness transformer designed around a toroid</li>
</ul>
<p>That last option offers the antenna designer an option to raise the impedance of the 50 ohm cable to something higher.  This, in turn, would move the tap points on the J up the antenna a bit.  To keep things simple, a plain ol&#8217; 1:1 choke balun is all we need and is why the coil choke provides a workable solution.</p>
<p>The performance of this two meter half-wave antenna is confirmed.  It is a keeper.  The only improvement left is to put it on top of my tower&#8230; when I get one <img src='http://www.hamradio.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You will find plans for the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=plumber%27s+special+j-pole+antenna">plumber&#8217;s special copper pipe j-pole antennas all over the internet</a>.  Some of the plans show the 3/4 wavelength section as two pieces: 1/4 wave section coupled to a 1/2 wave section.  There is no reason why this should not be one continuous piece of copper pipe 3/4 wavelength long.</p>
<p>Making an antenna out of copper pipe results in an antenna that gets more distinguished with age.  Oxidizing copper turns a shade of brown that pretty much serves as perfect camouflage in many environments.  You folks in CC&#038;R deed restricted areas can quite likely sneak one of these up in your yard.  If a Home Owner Association busy body questions it, just say it is your Asian metallic art piece and provides the yard with good Feng Shui.  This is hardly a pink Flamengo or a velvet bust of Elvis (yes I really saw this in a front yard once) so I think you will be fine.</p>
<p>The J-Pole antenna is a unique design that cleverly attaches a tuned feeder to a half-wave radiator.  Good luck on yours.</p>
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		<title>Long HT Antennas May Harm HT Radios</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After market antennas, especially the longer ones, may slowly break your expensive HT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are like many recently licensed Amateur Radio operators your first purchase may well be a good Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu or other brand Handy-Talkie or HT two way radio.  These are most frequently for the 2 meter and 70 centi-meter bands (144 and 440 MHz).</p>
<p>The antenna that comes with your radio is probably about 8 inches long and is a compromise between convenient length and performance.<br />
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After market antennas are available and just a quick turn away from installation to your radio&#8217;s BNC or SMA antenna jack.  Some are very short and provide the worst performance.  Some are quite long and provide some amount of gain.</p>
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<p>Problems may arise if you use a long antenna on a radio that is mechanically design to handle the stock and antenna.</p>
<p>I have an Icom Z1A HT that is broken at the moment because I used one of those 18 inch or so antennas on it.  The strain of that extra length loosened the antenna jack&#8217;s grip on the case and eventually caused the conductor between the antenna center pin and the HT circuit board to break.</p>
<p>I still have the radio in pieces, but cannot quite find an easy way to access the point where re-soldering is needed.</p>
<p>If I had it to do all over again, I would not put that long whip on a consumer grade radio like we have for our ham radio hobby.  To be honest, I think the performance of the stock antenna was just as good or better on 2 meters.</p>
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<p>The moral of the story is to think through the mechanical realities of putting an after market accessory on your expensive radio gear.  If you do, you may well decide that what you have is good enough.</p>
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