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		<title>Jpole vs. Coaxial Dipole EZNEC Shootout</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Antennas]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This J-Pole, Monopole, Coaxial Dipole VHF EZNEC shootout addresses a comment made that no models exist for j-pole and coaxial dipole antenna simulation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent email from the ARRL concerning ARES topics, a writer compares the coaxial vertical dipole antenna with a J-Pole for VHF work.  He says&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;With no real models for comparison, it is difficult to compare patterns for each antenna. I would suspect that the J-Pole would not have an omni-directional pattern and would therefore produce a lobe or lobes giving gain in some directions&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?<br />
<span id="more-492"></span><br />
Larry Cebik&#8217;s antenna model collection contains hundreds of antennas to examine with NEC or EZNEC and the J-Pole is no exception.  However, I did not find a coaxial antenna in his models.  So I examined the original patent for the Coaxial Dipole antenna and found it was originally composed of several elements running parallel to the coax to provide the bottom half of the dipole.  Great.  The models for the J-Pole, the coaxial dipole and a reference typical monopole with 45 degree radials are shown below&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_493" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jpole_mono_dipole.png" alt="A J-Pole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole modeled in EZNEC" title="jpole_mono_dipole" width="418" height="452" class="size-full wp-image-493" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A J Pole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole modeled in EZNEC</p></div></div>
<p>All three examples are simulated with their feed points at 300 inches above ground.  The J-Pole enjoys a height advantage for obvious reasons.  This advantage become more pronounced at lower elevations since the J-Pole&#8217;s height delta is a larger percentage of height above ground the lower the overall height is.</p>
<p>Height increases gain for all three antennas as the ground reflection begins to focus the horizon bound energy.  No real surprise there.  It is the relative gain patterns we really care about here.  Here it is for Azimuth at an elevation about 3.5 degrees&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_494" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 385px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/azimuth.png" alt="Azimuth pattern for J-Pole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole" title="azimuth" width="375" height="465" class="size-full wp-image-494" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Azimuth pattern for Jpole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole</p></div></div>
<p>Indeed, you can see the J-Pole&#8217;s lack of perfect symmetry results in a slight benefit in certain directions as correctly assumed by the ARES article author.  However, the difference is not very significant at less than 3 dB.  Also, there are no lobes of gain or loss, in azimuth, like the author theorizes.  Lobes do exist for elevation for all three antennas.</p>
<p>Here is a comparison of elevation&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_495" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 390px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/elevation.png" alt="J-Pole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole EZNEC Elevation" title="elevation" width="380" height="298" class="size-full wp-image-495" /><p class="wp-caption-text">J-Pole, Monopole and Coaxial Dipole EZNEC Elevation</p></div></div>
<p>The J-Pole enjoys the most gain at around 6 dBi with the other two antennas pretty close to this value.  Again, all three antenna&#8217;s gain is very dependent on the height above ground.  Thus, the J-Pole always has a slight advantage.  Otherwise, the J-Pole is just a half-wave radiator like the coaxial dipole with a slight height advantage.</p>
<p>What are we to make of all this?  Well, don&#8217;t listen to anyone who tells you one antenna is dramatically superior in performance to another.  In the end, they all, more of less, behave like a half-wave radiator and all are a little better than a 1/4 wave monopole over horizontal radials.</p>
<p>The Monopole is the one that bests matches to 50 ohm coax thanks to the angled radials.  The coaxial dipole simulates to around 80 ohms impedance which is close to the 72 ohm half-wave value.  The J-Pole feed is, indeed, a bit complicated, but matches 50 ohms very well.</p>
<p>So put performance issues aside and concentrate only on the mechanical issues when selecting your next VHF antenna.</p>
<p>Also, you now know better if someone tells you there are no real models for comparison.  Simulation has its limits, but is an excellent first step.  You can rest assured an antenna invented in the 1930s has been modeled at least once.</p>
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		<title>1/4 Wave Monopole vs. 1/2 Wave J-Pole EZNEC Shootout</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kx4o</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Myths abound concerning how J-Poles do so well.  Here is an EZNEC shootout between a 2 meter J-Pole and a Monopole with radials.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J-pole antennas are an interesting solution to the goal of more gain with a simple antenna.  I won&#8217;t go into the specifics of what a J-pole is as there are plenty of sites on the Internet with good plans to help you build your own.</p>
<p>However, there seems to be much hype about j-poles that make some folks think they have some kind of magical antenna properties.  Indeed many folks report staggering improvements over their previous antennas.  Is all the hype warranted?<br />
<span id="more-376"></span><br />
Well, simulation is not a perfect endeavor, but can certainly help analyze simple antennas at a good enough accuracy to make comparisons possible and reasonable.  Enter the contenders&#8230;</p>
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<div id="attachment_384" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 280px"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mono_vs_jpole.png" alt="2 Meter Monopole vs J-Pole Antenna" title="mono_vs_jpole" width="270" height="343" class="size-full wp-image-384" /><p class="wp-caption-text">2 Meter Monopole vs J-Pole Antenna</p></div></div>
<p>In the left side of the ring we have the classic 1/4 wave monopole antenna with four drooping radials.  On the right we have at a full 3/4 total wave in height the j-pole antenna.</p>
<p>These two antenna models are based on Cebik&#8217;s antenna collection available from his web site.  If you would like to simulate these and hundreds more antenna models, seriously consider purchasing his collection.</p>
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<div id="attachment_380" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare30feet" rel="attachment wp-att-380"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare30feet.png" alt="Monopole compared to j-pole with feed point at 30 feet height." title="compare30feet" width="418" height="239" class="size-full wp-image-380" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole compared to j-pole with feed point at 30 feet height.</p></div></div>
<p>The plot above shows the monopole as the primary trace in red compared with a j-pole in blue.  Both have their feed points up 30 feet.  The j-pole and the monopole have, for all practical purposes, identical gain in the primary low-angle lobe just above the horizon.  Hmm, where is the benefit?</p>
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<div id="attachment_379" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare15feet" rel="attachment wp-att-379"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare15feet.png" alt="Monopole and Jpole with feedpoing 15 feet above ground." title="compare15feet" width="418" height="241" class="size-full wp-image-379" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole and J-pole with feed point 15 feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>The overall gain of both antennas is lower and the j-pole shows a slight edge of about .5 dB.  This is still hardly worth much.</p>
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<div id="attachment_378" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/compare06feet" rel="attachment wp-att-378"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/compare06feet.png" alt="Monopole and J-Pole at six feet above ground." title="compare06feet" width="418" height="251" class="size-full wp-image-378" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Monopole and J-Pole at six feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>Now we are beginning to see more difference between the monopole and the j-pole although both exhibit less gain than either at higher installations.  Also, the primary lobe angle is higher above the horizon.</p>
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<div id="attachment_381" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 428px"><a href="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jp_6_15_30_feet.png"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jp_6_15_30_feet.png" alt="J-Pole EZNEC Simulations at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground." title="jp_6_15_30_feet" width="418" height="254" class="size-full wp-image-381" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">J-Pole EZNEC Simulations at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground.</p></div></div>
<p>This plot above compares the J-pole at 6, 15 and 30 feet above ground to demonstrate the key benefit of getting your antenna, any antenna, as high as possible.  You might be wondering why so much gain occurs beyond what theory tells you.  One difference between theory and reality is theoretical antennas are frequently simulated in free space without the interaction from the ground.  The ground causes absorption, reflections and other reactions that sometimes help and sometimes hurt our desired signal characteristics.</p>
<p>This simulation suggests the J-Pole offers some benefits to the operator, but not the fabulous and amazing results some claim to exist.  The question is, then, why do so many folks get good results.  Well, let&#8217;s examine some possibilities&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Many new hams try a J-Pole (sometimes a ladder line variety) to see if it will be better than the rubber ducky antenna on their HT.  By simple virtue of the J-Pole being almost certainly in a much better antenna location, there is no doubt the operator sees a vastly superior signal over the HT antenna.</li>
<li>J-Poles are taller.  This may seem silly, but getting that half-wave portion of the antenna well above the feed point of a comparison monopole results in a significant height improvement.  This difference is more pronounced at low heights and may be why the simulation shows the J-Pole beating the monopole more so at six feet.</li>
</ul>
<p>The diagram below show how each antenna placed at the common feed point height.  The height advantage of the J-Pole is clear.</p>
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<div id="attachment_385" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 247px"><a href="http://www.hamradio.me/nec-shootouts/monopole-vs-jpol-eznec-shootout.html/attachment/mono_vs_jpole_benefit" rel="attachment wp-att-385"><img src="http://www.hamhelpdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mono_vs_jpole_benefit.png" alt="J-Pole and Monopole EZNEC Currents" title="mono_vs_jpole_benefit" width="237" height="385" class="size-full wp-image-385" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">J-Pole and Monopole EZNEC Currents</p></div></div>
<p>The mystic of J-Pole antennas may cause some disappointment if folks are expecting more gain than a J-Pole can deliver.  Don&#8217;t listen to the fabulous claims.  If you desire to try a J-Pole just go ahead and do it.  I did and I like mine just fine.  Here are some advantages to a J-Pole&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Some, but not staggering, gain improvements at lower elevations</li>
<li>Slender design with little width</li>
<li>Simple sturdy construction makes for a hardy antenna</li>
<li>Entire antenna is at same dc potential allowing a grounded mount to dissipate static charge &#8211; however, the mast will become part of the antenna if you don&#8217;t choke the RF currents</li>
<li>A truly balanced-feed half-wave antenna that requires no ground for use &#8211; compare this with transformer based half-wave antennas that MUST be coupled to a good ground for the coax-side transformer currents to flow (lots of people make the wrong assumption half-wave mobile antennas do not need ground)</li>
</ul>
<p>J-Poles, whether copper cactus plumbing specials or ladder line types stuffed into PVC, work just fine, but don&#8217;t offer magical capabilities.  Try one.</p>
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